PODCAST 🎙️: They say business and pleasure don’t mix. But what about business and friends? My dear friend @Will Guidara is the perfect person to dive into this question because we're actively trying to get into business together. And, let's just say, it requires a lot of effort. In addition to being someone I love, Will is a renowned restaurateur, known for owning and operating Eleven Madison Park, once named the best restaurant in the world. He’s also the author of the brilliant book "Unreasonable Hospitality" and a co-producer of the FX television series #TheBear. Will and I have worked together before, so I was excited to chat with him about turning friends into colleagues, the reality of friendship breakups at work, and why sometimes showing respect means we have to change the way we treat a friend. Listen to our full conversation wherever you get your podcasts 🎧

You and I do something that I think most friendships don't, which in a moment of tension where one of us is digging in for some reason or another, the other person will ask, is this your ego? How did we learn that? Have you always been that honest about yourself? Ideally, as you get older and you become more self-assured, you're able to actually say, gosh, you're right. This is about my ego, and this is not rooted in the right place without fearing that you will lose the other person's respect for having made that mistake. We both have made the choice that we aren't going to hold on to one another. I care enough about this person to do what I need to do in order to preserve and pursue this friendship. You have the confidence to admit your own failings. And the question I'm asking myself is, what comes first? The confidence to be vulnerable or the skill of being vulnerable that leads to confidence?